Anyone had alloy pitting on their engine casing I m aware there was an issue...

Anyone had alloy 'pitting' on their engine casing? I'm aware there was an issue on the 1200 boxer engine as my friend had a complete new engine fitted within 12 months of purchase ! Only problem for me is 2/3 weeks out of warrenty now so dealer says would be a 'good will ' gesture if they BMW decide to do anything. My argument would be the pitting would have started to develop well b4 the warrenty ran out ...and fault was there in warrenty.

Looks like im in for a battle do you think?

Anyone got similar problem??

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I purchase a new Navigator V last month to swap between my K16GT and the GSA

I purchase a new Navigator V last month to swap between my K16GT and the GSA. Everything connected as per SENA's instructions for my 20s phone pairing to GPS. Media (A2DP) connection to the GPS. Phone pairing to the bike. Initially no problems.

About the third time out I discovered the GPS won't voice dial anymore. Then when making calls via the touch screen, the calls will periodically drop out, so that all I can hear is my voice. They'll suddenly reconnect after 20-30 seconds and work normally. After trying repairing everything several times, I simply dropped my phone connection to the GPS. Siri has always worked without issue direct to my SENA 20s anyway. A couple of days after doing this, suddenly when playing music from the GPS's inbuilt SD card, the sound drops out randomly. Each time it comes back will coincide with the start of a new track? I've also started noticing random bursts of static between my headset and the GPS when nothing else is connected.

I've tried wiping out the pairings and starting again. I've upgraded the GPS and headset to latest versions. Exactly the same pairings work fine with my Nav IV. I even tried using my wife's SENA 20s still on the old software version, which again works fine on my Nav IV but the same issues on the Nav V.

Before I send it back to the dealer, has any one got something simple that I'm missing?

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    Photos from Vernon Naicker's post

    Tested the NineT and the new K16 2017 with my buddy Chris yesterday. The NineT was more to satisfy curiosity and while it is lively, nimble and fun bike it's not my cup of tea. The K16 impressed me with the Pro Shifter. Gear changes smooth up and down and no lag between changes, very well setup. The new dash layout is easier to read and "GT" label on the clock was a nice touch! "R" as in Reverse is mechanical which uses the starter and so battery. The motor builds revs to allow the alternator to compensate during the reverse action. Hope the starter motor has been reinforced for longevity with this additional usage. As it was a test under mostly rain or wet conditions, I did not get to put the suspension under too much stress to see what dynamic ESA does. Would I want one? YES, for nothing else but that shifter!!! (Not a retrofit option on pre 2017 models.) I tested the black. However the dealer invited me to view a customers bike in the shop. Now under florescent lighting, what BMW are calling Mars Red Metallic, appears 'burgundy' or 'bordeaux' but not red. I would like to see it in daylight or in the showroom to see if it's really 'red'. Add the emergency call option and you have a bike that really has it ALL! Now for a laugh: So we done the test, ready to set off from BMW parking, my k16 refuses to start!!! Seems she didn't take kindly to possible replacement! Well dealer had a look and the start button/switch was the problem. Swapped out in 10min and I was on my way! How lucky is that to have happened at the dealer versus 1000km away to Pyrenees!

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      Some help guidance from the group I just bought the Iliumworks engine crash...

      Some help/guidance from the group - I just bought the Iliumworks engine crash bars for my 2016 GTLE, and trying to figure out how to remove the lower fairings without doing any damage! I remove the 2 screws on the bottom, the 2 on the front, then I assume I need to remove the driving lights - but how to get to those? Is the correct procedure to loosen the 2 screws that clamp it to the bar that come thru the fairing? If so, how did anyone get to those? I tried a bit, and mine seem to be on so tight I'm afraid of striping the heads.

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        Photos from Vernon Naicker's post

        I waited 4 or 5 weekends to have to a day with clear blue skies and no rain ☉. The destination, "Les Alpes Mancelles" in the Sarthe region of France, about 200km west of Paris and the same east of my native Brittany. Beautiful scenary, roads for the most part are curve and varying between hills and valleys. My friend with a new KTM 1290 for company, we started at 08h45 and finished 439km by 18h25, taking drinks/coffee and a pizzeria break. When I lived in South Africa, I took blue skies and sunshine for granted. Now I am alot more appreciative and I realise how lucky I was to have grown up in S.Africa. Back to bikes, the K16 is just a joy and yesterday's ride was no exception. The 1290 is very very quick and nimble and kept me honest all day.

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          ok so I removed the front seat air guides for intake air pipes left and right...

          ok, .... so I removed the front seat, air guides for intake air pipes, left and right, complete cover of fuel tank, left bottom side panel, left radiator cowl, left side panel, inner trim for left side panel, right bottom side panel, right radiator cowl, the right side panel, inner trim for right side panel, adjusting plate, complete intake air silencer, fuel tank, air guide for oil cooler, disengaged seat support, left and right intake air pipes, front brake hose, and released the pressure modulator and finally found my defective strut to replace it with a new one……….. who said open-heart-surgery is difficult ????

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            Photos from Philip Harvey's post

            I need to say a massive Thankyou to Wes Field for putting me on the right track with something and share with the rest of the group a little fix that saves quite a lot of money! I`ve been having pannier problems. The issue was that the left hand pannier would release as normal from the bike and then wouldn`t lock back on. BMW and a few other forums have given me no end of duff information and frankly BS on the problem and no-one (except Wes) seemed to have any knowledge of it. So, last night I took the box to pieces and had a look. You need to take off the painted cover from the bike side of the pannier and then the plastic trim panel from beside the handle. The locking mechanism then unscrews from the inside of the box. Once youve got it off, turn it over and look at the slider which moves the locking bolts in and out..this passes under 2 plastic parts and this is where the problem lies. The ends of the slider catch on the corners and jam. To get around it you need to file the corners off to allow them to pass (the bits I`m pointing at in the photos - also please note the aluminium bolt is shown in the photo the wrong way up!). Having done that and reassembled the pannier it works perfectly again!!! Its a fiddly pain in the ass job but it saved me £250...Cheers Wes, if ever I`m in Oz I`ll be buying you a beer!

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              Photos from Wes Field's post

              For those that have been curious. I brought a new BMW Nav V and mount for my R1200GSA, with the intention of being able to swap it out for the Nav IV on the K16GT. We're constantly told you have to swap the GPS surround.

              The two photos below show the same dash. The first with the old surround and Nav IV the second with the same surround and the Nav V.

              For the expense of AUD$89 for a new surround, you gain just 3mm (less than 1/4 inch) at each end of the screen, that displays no information on the main screen. Please feel free to spend your money how you like. I'll use my saved money on something else.

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                Spent near 3 hours fitting Heli Bar risers today complete nightmare at first

                Spent near 3 hours fitting Heli Bar risers today, complete nightmare at first. In the end I found it best to put all of my 5 extension bars onto a rachet driver and then the T45 on the end, that got the two fronts and two middles ones off, then for the back ones I needed to use mole grips around the screws just to get them both started nd then take off by hand whilst wiggling each bar. Thank goodness Heli put proper bolts in the pack to replace these little sods so assembly was so much easier. Overall, it was worth it as it seems to fit much further back and higher, amazing what an inch here and another inch there makes. They are a lovely piece of engineering, but still hugely expensive for what they are.

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                  Hello guys it s my first time to post I own a 2014 K1600 GT Sport and I took...

                  Hello guys, it's my first time to post. I own a 2014 K1600 GT Sport and I took delivery of it beginning of 2015. Things don't happen very fast in Egypt. Anyway, I've had for 2 years, only 6000 miles (I own a night rod special as well) so I don't ride it unless I'm traveling. It's a fantastic bike. It actually grew on me. The more I ride it, the more I'm convinced I made the right decision selling my 2011 CVO Street Glide and buying it. Do you guys know how long should the original tires last? I ride usually in excess of 200 km/h and I curve hard. Any ideas?

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                    So I rode my old Kawasaki GTR1400 to Caloundra and traded it on a k1600

                    So I rode my old Kawasaki GTR1400 to Caloundra and traded it on a k1600. First impressions as I drove out of the dealership. Not as sporty. Not as quick. Cruiser like riding position. Sensor light came on "low front tyre pressure" bloody bike dealers. Sorted it easy. Got on the M1 set cruise and settled into it. Nice and comfortable. 200k's no worries. Took the Nerang exit and hit the twists for the next 100k's. Very nice. Good ground clearance. Sounds awesome. Wind protection is very good for me, won't be needing ear plugs anymore. Not sure about the top box but it came with one. However now I love it. So practical. Wont be needing the panniers for a while. Got home and sat on it for a while figuring out all the controls. Fitting head light protector and pussy grips before my ride on Sunday to Tenterfield.

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                      Hello again So I rode to Brisbane BMW to look at two k1600 today One of them...

                      Hello again. So I rode to Brisbane BMW to look at two k1600 today. One of them appeared to me to have been neglected. The other looked good. Low k's 2013 model. I took it for a test ride. The dealer told me where to go. Keeping in mind I don't know Brisbane very well, I got lost. No problem I thought pulled over turned off the bike and set a course with google maps back to the dealership. The battery died and the bike did not start. By this time it was 35c in the shade. Ok I will just ring the dealership. No answer 28 attempts later no answer rang the dealer across the road no answer........So I rang a mate I knew would be at the Victory dealership and asked him if he could ride over and tell them what had happened. Oh yes we where wondering where he was. Two hours later they turned up in a van. There phones and net where down. What a cluster fuck.

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                        Morning fellow enthusiasts I joined this group because I am seriously...

                        Morning fellow enthusiasts. I joined this group because I am seriously considering about purchasing one of these amazing bikes. I have sold my Honda and have my Kawasaki to go. I have read blogs and watched YouTube to get an idea about them. All the YouTube stuff is very positive. What I am looking for are the negatives. The first run of any model has problems that get sorted on later models. So the 2011 to 2013 model fits my price range. I know about the engine corrosion problems. Have any of you experienced any other por elms you can share?

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                          For the more experienced than me I am a first time BMW owner and have a...

                          For the more experienced than me, I am a first time BMW owner, and have a probably stupid quesation. I bought a new 2015 GTL-E last year. Before winter storage, i bought a BMW battery charger, the $88 model, not the $160 one that is can-bus compatable.

                          The dealer told me to just unplug the negative terminal on battery before i install the charger directly to the battery. when i did, of course, the alarm went off.

                          So I just let it scream the 20 some seconds till it stopped.

                          Then I hooked the charger to battery. It is still plugged in,

                          but I did notice a "needs service" msg.

                          Will it clear away after I unhook the charger and hook the battery back up?

                          Does it need to go back to dealer? I feel really suckered into this one,

                          I just listened to the dealer. Is any thing wrong with it?

                          Any comments for next time, other than buy the more

                          expensive charger, for the more expensive bike.

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                            Photos from Patrice Iseli's post

                            Thank you for welcoming me in this group.

                            I live close to Lausanne, Switzerland, aged 58, and owner of a GTL for 2 years. I ride 10'000 to 12'000 km each year, mostly on duo with my wife. We love making a big trip each summer. Last year we went to Biarritz through the Pyrénées and back by Bordeaux and Toulouse. This year it was the Dolomites and Austria up to Wienna.

                            I'm looking forward to sharing experiences with you all! In the meantime I wish you a wonderful year of riding and discovering new areas!


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                              Phi Cen shared a link to the group: BMW K1600GT/GTL Enthusiasts World Wide.

                              Just took the bike out and braved 40 degrees (f) to test the short throw shifter I installed yesterday. After installing it wrong, then installing it correctly, then spending some time adjusting and fine tuning it, I can now say it is awesome. Crisp quick sure shifts! The bike is awesome as stock, and no, this is not a necessity, but, if you like to ride on the sporty side, this is for you! I spent two hours on it and it worked flawlessly. Plus, the guys at DMAC were great answering my questions and helping me sort it out. Thanks Wes Field and Rick Hersee your assistance as well.

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                                SHORT SHIFT KITS

                                -SHORT SHIFT KITS-

                                For those they may have been having an issue with what feels like increased force having to be applied to the upper gear changes, please read the following direct from Don the manufacturer. The linkage supplier was changed for a better product. There is a slight possibility that the critical length on the upper (short) control rod, might be slightly out of spec. The below should clarify any issues.

                                The upper link for a GTL should be as close to 88.5mm or 3.48inches between centers the mounting holes in the rod ends. The GT sets up at 96mm or 3.78 inches between centers. As close to that as is possible since ½ rotation of one end get 0.5mm adjustment. In the case of the GTL we try to error on the low side of the spec. Conversely on the GT we tend to error on the long side of the spec.

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                                  Photos from Wes Field's post

                                  Now this is an upgrade that most won't run out to do because of the cost, but it makes a huge difference to how your bike rides.

                                  After being told about the advantages of doing so by the BMW VicMC president, I finally decided to rip out the BMW ESA suspension and replace it with Wilbers ESA shocks. The difference is amazing. Wilbers supply the shocks tuned to your weight and riding style. They then fit the BMW electronics to the new shocks, meaning it all works as factory fitted. In the past due to carrying too much everyday gear on the bike, plus carrying a few more pounds then I should be, I've always ridden on "One up plus gear". This stops me from slamming the centre stand into kerbs etc. for the first time in almost four years, I can ride in standard "one up" mode. I suddenly have no issues with bottoming out. The new shocks feel so much more planted and steady on the road. I've done almost 5000km since fitting and they feel spectacular.

                                  They aren't cheap, but they do transform the handling of the K1600.

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                                    Countless members have mentioned Short Throw Shift Kit from dmacmachining

                                    Countless members have mentioned "Short Throw Shift Kit" from - and my curiosity was so great that I contacted Don McCallum, who is the owner and inventor of "Short Throw Shift Kit" for BMW K1600GT / GTL (all models). DMAC Machining, LLC is a CNC machine shop in Broomfield Colorado(US) focused primarily on prototype and short-run production parts for a wide range of customers including aerospace, medical, precision motion control, factory-floor automation, renewable energy and scientific research and development.

                                    For all those who dare not take the chance I will make a solid product review in the near future. I will see to it that we describe and make photo documentation about the process in relation to the assembly, the difference in the use and any supplement to things that might be missing in the detailed documentation.

                                    Can it really be true that Don has made a stroke of genius - something BMW factory should have provided from the beginning?

                                    I have great expectations! Stay tuned.... :-)

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                                      Having to take the bike into my local dealer tomorrow. North Oxford BMW

                                      Having to take the bike into my local dealer tomorrow (North Oxford BMW) as its developed an engine "rattle". Regardless of what gear your in, or what speed your doing, it will do it. I first noticed it Wednesday when I was riding home from work.

                                      It happened between 1700 & 2200 rpm when you are in any gear. I get up to speed, or get into the relevant gear, close the throttle, then reopen it to maintain the desired speed. Between 1700 & 2200 rpm whilst the throttle is being feathered open it will rattle constantly.

                                      I'm not sure if its linked, but a couple of days before the rattle became obvious, I had a number of "false naturals". Something I've never experienced before?

                                      Its so loud you can hear it with the visor down, my winter balaclava on and with moderate wind speed blasting past you.

                                      The bikes a 2011 GTLE, with 9000 and has full BMW service history. Its been lovely used and cared for, and NEVER been abused, so folks, watch this space...

                                      Anyone else had this issue?

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                                        Had a new set of Michelin Pilot Road 4 s fitted Also had a front lower...

                                        Had a new set of Michelin Pilot Road 4's fitted. Also had a front lower suspension ball joint fitted. Though the bike felt a bit odd on the way home so decided to check it out. All looks good under the front suspension. I then put the bike on the double / main stand. I put the bike into gear and with the engine running and took it up to 6th gear. The bike juddering and awful lot like and unbalanced wheel. This did not happen with the old Michelin Pilot Road 4's.

                                        I asked the dealer mechanic and he said all shaft driven motorcycles do that. He told me it was less than 5 grams on the balancer so he didn't fit a weight. To me it feels just like and unbalanced wheel on a car. Am I being fobbed off?

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                                          My old BMW System 6 is at it s used by date so it s time for a new one

                                          My old BMW System 6 is at it's used by date, so it's time for a new one. I recently looked at a friends Schuberth C3 Pro, and the weight difference alone impressed me. Yes I know there is a new C4 coming, and a new BMW helmet, but I'll need a new one shortly, not next year. My recent long distance trip has just about killed the liner.

                                          I'm interested in feedback regarding the SRC system that goes with the helmet. Is it worth it? My SENA 20s is from the first stock on release and it due for replacement as well. Currently it connects to the bike, my phone, an SENA SR10. I also use it as an intercom. I run the Nav IV back through the bike.

                                          My wife uses a SENA 20s as well.

                                          I'd be interested in feedback regarding how others use the SRC with the C3 Pro.

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                                            Photos from Wes Field's post

                                            After 14 days and 9500km, yet another one of my epic across Australia service trips. This time my 120,000km service coincided with the BMW Clubs Australia rally in alpine region of Victoria. As I live in the northern end of the country (think Crocodile Dundee) it involved a blast down the centre of Australia. I completed not only an Iron Butt Riders SS1600km (1730km on the first day) but also the BB2500 (2680km in 35 hours) the run to Melbourne, of 3800km was finished in 57 hours. The GT went into BMW Southbank in Melbourne on the Monday for its major valve service and the fitting of new Wiburs suspension. If you've got a spare $2500, it's worth it, the bike feels better than new. During the service, it was discovered that the upper mounts for the radiator had sheared off and required welding back into place. Eventually all back together, I headed off to northern Victoria for a trip on a 93 year old wood fired, steam powered paddle boat along the Murray river for two days, literally straight off the boat in the afternoon, a lift 100km back up stream and back on the bike to get in 250km before dark to the check in for the BMW rally in the Alpine village of Bright. Several hundred kilometres of riding with other BMW enthusiasts, including an interesting thick fog and freezing rain ride to the ski resort town of Mount Hotham for some quick photos of the GT with the remaining limited snow in the back ground. (It is mid spring after all ) During the rally, I was presented with a plaque by the Victorian BMW club for the first owner/rider to achieve 100,000km on a K1600. (It's actually not far from 100,000miles now) Back on the bike, once again after the rally, I altered my plans to go and see some friends in the nations capital in Canberra. A couple of days of good food and drink, before once again returning to what the GT does best and tearing up the rural roads of the grain and sheep farming districts of New South Wales and South Australia, before once again returning to the familiar north/south highway through central Australia.

                                            In the end 9500km, two certified Iron Butt rides completed, a fair portion of the country from outback desert to ski resorts was covered. I'm already planning the next major service ride, at 160,000km to Brisbane.

                                            Photos are captioned.

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                                              Another part mod tip I just discovered on K1600 Forum called Super Plug for...

                                              Another part mod tip I just discovered on K1600 Forum - called Super Plug for replacement of the inside trans oil sump plug. As you can see from the attached photo, RL Lemke, simply takes a 1/4 socket and has it welded to the sump plug, then smoothed out in a lathe. The result is that instead of an Allen key, you can now simply insert a 1/4 socket extension bar into the gear box sump plug. This means no chance of dropping it and no chance of stripping the end out. It really makes servicing simple. Stock plug on the left, SuperPlug on the right.

                                              I now have one on my bike. Forum feedback is very positive.

                                              Contact RL at, 214-912-7360. Est. $35.50 shipped domestic U.S.. Request total for international. He can do PayPal transactions if you message him with your PayPal email. He is out of Dallas, TX.

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                                                Hello Guys its my first time on here and i need some advice I bought a new...

                                                Hello Guys, its my first time on here and i need some advice. I bought a new GTLE in 2012 and I had some issues with it, namely L/H switch gear and water pump leak. I was not too concerned about these, but the biggest issue for me was the clunky gearbox and drivetrain back lash. This was a big problem for me and detracted from the whole riding experience, so i sold the bike and went to another manufacturer.

                                                I'm considering buying another GTL in 2017, but not unless BMW have these issues sorted. My information is that these issues may have been rectified for model years 2014 onwards. If improvements have been made, would this be on bikes when hill start assist and keyless ignition were introduced? Thanks for your help.

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                                                  Had my 30000km service done last Friday Had to change front brake pads at the...

                                                  Had my 30000km service done last Friday. Had to change front brake pads at the same time. A wopping 711€ for that.

                                                  Only one anomaly detected. The radiater pipe, behind the black side panel on the left side body panels, was creased together following a vacum effect. Inspection showed a defective radiateur cap seal. They re-tightened the old one while have ordered a new cap and seal to replace mine. I checked this weekend, no creasing of the rubber pipe. Have never had any heating issues with this bike ever. Before you start your bike in the morning, reach behind the left side black panel behind which is the radiateur pipe. If it's creased you need have it checked.

                                                  Otherwise, mecanic appreciate the clean, dust free and sand free bike, said it was a pleasure to have worked on it. No issues with valve clearances, plugs all burning properly but were changed, changed out the engine coolant fluid, etc bike riding, sounding, feeling smooth ... think this one's a keeper... :-)

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                                                    Photos from Wes Field's post

                                                    Another K1600 "must have" for those who self service. From the K1600 forum, RL Lemke's sump plug.

                                                    For those who have serviced your own bike, you'll know that the K48 motor is a double sump. The gearbox sump is inside the motor sump. To change the oil, you first remove the engine sump plug, then insert a 6mm Allen key into the opening to gain access to the gearbox sump plug. Two issues, if you drop that bad boy, you'll be removing the exhaust to gain access to remove the sump pan to retrieve it. The second, is that they made it from the same weird cheese curd that BMW makes fairing bolts from. Stripping the head is relatively simple. I know my dealer did it and didn't tell me...

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                                                      Schuberth C4 ready for april 2017

                                                      Schuberth C4 - ready for april 2017

                                                      Schuberth has announced the successor to C3 Pro with their new C4 version. It should be ready by dealers around April 2017, and you will have 12 color choices.

                                                      Schuberth SRC Pro - Intercom - was origin produced by Cardo ie. starting from C3 (SRC v1), C3 Pro (SRV v2 and v3) will be replaced by SENA. Rumors say that SENA "platform" will be based on 30K - combined with pre-build-in antenna, speakers and microphone from Schuberth. This is a very interesting twist since SENA has a growing marketshare- and Schuberth customers will be compatible with even more users in the future.

                                                      Features about the SENA 30K platform can be found on SENA's homepage, and you can read more about Schuberth C4 on their homepage as well.

                                                      At present we have no further information about Schuberth C4, but we are pleased to have the opportunity to test the new helmet and intercom system starting in 2017.

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                                                        Wes Field shared a link to the group: BMW K1600GT/GTL Enthusiasts World Wide.

                                                        Ive had a change of heart. There are now three must haves for any K1600 owner. A headlight protector. (That's a one piece unit and worth over $2000), crash bars of some description, because eventually gravity will win, and without doubt, the most dramatic improvement to the bike an owner can make, the dmacmachining short shift kit. By simply replacing the single gear shift link with a two link system, the gear shift has less than half the factory throw. This means quick clean "clunkless" gear shifts. The holy grail of K1600 ownership. Each gear change is a quick "snick" rather than something akin to chopping wood. Time to install is about 45 minutes. Forget your pretty Schrodie lights, your fancy screens and custom seats. Spend USD$150 and transform your bike in a positive way. Don backs these kits with unrivalled customer service and the finish is better than factory. If your in some backwater Euro nation like the UK, you'll get slugged import duties, but it's truely worth it. This will be the single best thing you can put on your bike after your bum.

                                                        Photos in comments.

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                                                          Patric Müller shared a link to the group: BMW K1600GT/GTL Enthusiasts World Wide.

                                                          I mounted a Wunderlich CAM RACK on my K1600GTL to get another angle for my filming.

                                                          My friend and i did a test ride over the Grimselpass here in Switzerland. We did know that it will be cold but we did not expect Rain that was coming out of the fog.

                                                          We tried to attemp the pass but we were unable to reach it.

                                                          The road was icy, so we decided then to turn around.

                                                          On the way down it was very heartpounding.

                                                          The ABS had alot to do! We were lucky to get down in one pece.....

                                                          The Wunderlich is very cool as it is very sturdy. The only thing you have to keep in mind is that the angle is changing wen you move your windshield.

                                                          It is a keeper for me!

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                                                            Photos from Vernon Naicker's post

                                                            Visited the Cotentin region(Basse Normandie), France with Phil Phil over two days. Spent a night in Cherboug. 701km in all. I have to say those roads in Normandy are just made for motorcycling! If you follow "Route des Caps" from Cherbourg or cling to the coast from Omaha Beach, there is just so much to see! The ww2 museum at Utah beach was probably the best site visited ... a certain feeling of sadness for the lives lost on those days that the allied forces arrived on those Normandy beaches. Tanks, landing crafts, monuments..... all there..

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                                                              Anyone here who s water pump has failed and is out of warranty if more than...

                                                              Anyone here, who's water pump has failed and is out of warranty (if more than three months) and BMW has replaced free of charge?

                                                              If so, would you please advise of the details, I.e. Year of bike, mileage, when pump failed, location, how many fails (if more than one)

                                                              Mine failed just under 10k miles, 2012, I presumed that BMW would've replaced this without having to charge me the warranty excess as this is a known problem!

                                                              I gave the dealer my thoughts on this and they called claims they refused outright to cover my excess (if there actually was someone on the other end of the phone)

                                                              Please let me know.


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                                                                The Wingman last night proposed an around Oz trip for late next year I reckon...

                                                                The Wingman last night proposed an around Oz trip for late next year. I reckon I could do it in three-four days per state, he wants to take a little longer.

                                                                If we do this, I'm going to look to do two things and I'm hoping fellow Australian K16 riders can make some suggestions. Obviously I want to cross off as many roads in my Hema "Best riding roads" atlas as possible. I'm over half way there already, some of them are over rated, but I want to know the roads the locals ride to plan them into a route.

                                                                As most of us visit the great little bakeries for coffee and cake, I want to find each states best Vanilla Slice. There a some truly horrible snot blocks out there (all the overseas guys are now scratching their heads) some of these little beauties are worth the ride for. I know the Bakery in the Main Street of Echuca for example has one of the best by far examples.

                                                                Can anyone suggest where I can find the best in each state?

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                                                                  Hello folks I was detailing the bike this weekend I ve discovered that there...

                                                                  Hello folks. I was detailing the bike this weekend. I've discovered that there is a 'play' on the windshield support arms uniquely when the screen is in the upright position(pinch screen at the top in upright position and rock back and forth along the axe of the bike). The screen itself is well fixed to it's mounting plate and no anomalies there. During my last two rides I did hear the odd rattle, now I know where it is produced. Anybody noticed this on your k16 GT or GTLE ? � Bike is due for 30k km service soon so dealer could check. However I have a trip this weekend including an overnight stay. If it's a quick fix, I don't mind getting it sorted before my trip by myself.

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                                                                    Eric Callis shared a Page to the group: BMW K1600GT/GTL Enthusiasts World Wide.

                                                                    Thanks for admission into the group. I'm on my 2nd GTL. I had a crash in June of this year with a deer at about 60mph and totaled the 2013 GTL. Immediately replaced it with a 2016 GTLE. I'm documenting the work and mods to the bike along with my rides on my facebook page and youtube channel

                                                                    I am from the Chicago area but have ridden in over 40 states and part of Canada. I'm always looking for new roads, new rides, and new riding buddies. I look forward to contributing to the community through this group and my own pages and videos.

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                                                                      Bike Scan 100 Professional

                                                                      Bike-Scan 100 Professional

                                                                      As promised earlier - Bike Scan 100 Pro is ready and available in US/UK language (early version only german) - from ( and I have had the pleasure to test the unit.

                                                                      Very compact and very easy to use! No need for PC/Mac usage - just plug BS100 directly into your diagnostic connection, then it fire up and is ready to use. You have several options regarding manufacturers (ie. BMW) and types (ie. cars/bikes). I refuse to read I selected BMW, Bike - and connect automatic - there you go! All information stored becomes available - and you can make changes to most of them - just as they can at authorized workshops.

                                                                      Your advantages:

                                                                      Professional and cost-saving diagnostic.

                                                                      Future-proof diagnostic platform.

                                                                      Free updates for error code database and control unit.

                                                                      Upgrades for vehicle specific diagnostic.

                                                                      Upgradeable for additional function.

                                                                      Support via online and telephone.

                                                                      Easy and quick menu navigation in German.

                                                                      No PC or laptop required (stand-alone system).

                                                                      No constraint to update with costs.(independent of time) .

                                                                      Made in Germany.

                                                                      Special features:

                                                                      Date / way service reset.

                                                                      Date and time reset, for example after a battery change.

                                                                      Reset of adaptation values for the engine control unit.

                                                                      Read of the current Km.

                                                                      Chassis number read-out.

                                                                      Valve play reset service.

                                                                      Specific live data.

                                                                      Calibration of fuel tank gauge unit ( for example 1200GS).

                                                                      Calibration of idle speed actuator.

                                                                      Initialise of brake wear tracing.

                                                                      Supported protocol:

                                                                      KWP-2000 specific.

                                                                      CAN- BUS specific.

                                                                      UDS specific.

                                                                      Suitable for all BMW type series C1/R/K/F/G/HP/S with 10 Pol. diagnostic plug, year of construction from 2000-.

                                                                      Supported control units:

                                                                      Engine electronics from Motronic 2.4.

                                                                      Central electronics.

                                                                      Combination instrument.

                                                                      Tyre pressure control.

                                                                      ABS – Anti blocking system from I-ABS.

                                                                      Anti-theft alarm system.


                                                                      Radio control panels.

                                                                      Control of electric hydraulic stand

                                                                      ...and the list goes on and on.....

                                                                      Practical usage:

                                                                      I knew I had some sort of error from our summer trip ie. low oil indication, since my Oil Warning came up. 0,5L top-up of oil solved that problem. But would it tell? Ohhh....yes! Error-log did show "Low Oil" indication - specific on date/year/km-reading. Let's clear that....done! Really easy!

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                                                                        Photos from Wes Field's post

                                                                        I've been on a couple of other K1600 forums & pages for a while, but only joined here a couple of days ago and figured I should do the right thing and do an intro. I've had the same GT for the past four years and 120,000km/75,000miles in Northern Australia. I've added a few extras including Clearwater Ericas and Darlas, plus CANopener4 and Billie taillight upgrade, CBDane's running light conversion, Ztechnick Vstream, Radguards, Genuine GTL top box with high mount stop lights, Uniden UHF radio, pannier protectors, Illum bars and highway pegs and numerous other small stuff. It's comfortable, but there are more toys coming.....

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                                                                          Photos from Rodney Martin Kingma's post

                                                                          CAN ANYONE ASSIST...!!!

                                                                          I recently received my emblem side indicator lights (SCHROEDIE.DE) for my K1600GT Sport. I chose, ordered and had delivered the two coloured indicators (WHITE & ORANGE).

                                                                          Last night, I remove one panel off the K16, installed as per the instructions and this morning I connected both the BLACK wire to the bikes BROWN wire and RED wire to the bikes WHITE, RED & BLUE wire with the branch terminals (see photo attached).

                                                                          I also made a basic ACTIVE (/ +) wiring loom and as you can see from the video supplied. I can have the LED illuminate in WHITE as part of the specification of this product.

                                                                          The issue is, the indicators will not flash ORANGE, it continues to stay a constant WHITE, even with the motorcycle running, I have used both the indicator and the hazard lights, the problems remains the same.

                                                                          Does anyone know of this problem, or have you faced the same problem / issue...?

                                                                          Any and assistance would be appreciated


                                                                          Rodn ey

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                                                                            One day a man decided to retire

                                                                            One day a man decided to retire...

                                                                            He booked himself on a Caribbean cruise and proceeded to have the time of his life, that is, until the ship sank.

                                                                            He soon found himself on an island with no other people, no supplies, nothing, only bananas and coconuts.

                                                                            After about four months, he is lying on the beach one day when the most gorgeous woman he has ever seen rows up to the shore.

                                                                            In disbelief, he asks, "Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

                                                                            She replies, "I rowed over from the other side of the island where I landed when my fishing boat sank."

                                                                            "Amazing," he notes. "You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with you."

                                                                            "Oh, this thing?" explains the woman. " I made the boat out of some raw material I found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches. I wove the bottom from palm tree branches, and the sides and stern came from a Eucalyptus tree."

                                                                            "But, where did you get the tools?"

                                                                            "Oh, that was no problem," replied the woman. " On the south side of the island, a very unusual stratum of alluvial rock is exposed. I found that if I fired it to a certain temperature in a volcanic vent I found just down the island, it melted into ductile iron and I used that to make tools and used the tools to make the hardware."

                                                                            The guy is stunned.

                                                                            "Let's row over to my place," she says "and I'll give you a tour." So, after a short time of rowing, she soon docks the boat at a small hand built wharf. As the man looks to shore, he nearly falls off the boat.

                                                                            Before him is a long stone walk leading to a cabin and tree house.

                                                                            While the woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, the man can only stare ahead, dumb struck. As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call it home. Please sit down."

                                                                            "Would you like a drink?"

                                                                            "No! No thank you," the man blurts out, still dazed. "I can't take another drop of coconut juice."

                                                                            "Oh, it's not coconut juice," winks the woman. "I have a still. How would you like a Jack Daniels neat?"

                                                                            Trying to hide his continued amazement, the man accepts, and they sit down on her couch to talk. After they exchange their individual survival stories, the woman announces, "I'm going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you like to take a shower and shave? There's a razor in the bathroom cabinet upstairs."

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                                                                              HELP I have a 2016 K1600GTL and I have hooked up a Sena 20S bluetooth to the...

                                                                              HELP! I have a 2016 K1600GTL and I have hooked up a Sena 20S bluetooth to the bike. I can get music to to play in the helmet now but when I turn off the Sena unit I can not get music to come out of the bike speakers. I have tried turning the speakers off and on with no luck and have even unpaired the Sena system but still can not get the sound to come out of the bike speakers...has anybody had this problem before or does anybody have any suggestions on how I might fix this. The bluetooth emblem shows up on the radio face even when there is no bluetooth hooked up.

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                                                                                Looking for a little advise since I am new to the BMW K1600GTL I have always...

                                                                                Looking for a little advise since I am new to the BMW K1600GTL. I have always had Harley's and when it came to listing to music and gps directions you had a cable that ran from the bike to your helmet but now with the K1600GTL everything is bluetooth...does anybody have suggestions on what brand of bluetooth system I should get? I don't do a lot of riding in groups, I just want to be able to listen to music and make and receive phone calls for the most part. Any help would be appreciated, getting confused by all the different media I have been reading.

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                                                                                  K1600 PRE 2015 just dont have it. that briliante light and visibility

                                                                                  K1600 PRE 2015 just dont have it.....that briliante light and visibility!

                                                                                  As owner of Kawasaki GTR1400 (for many many happy years) - and now K1600, there is one thing, but really important one that annoys me tremendously regarding K1600. Front lights... even stock H4 on GTR is way better and more visible. And if you change those stock H4 (dual) into a "Bluetech", then you dont event need Xenon. I know that "running lights" are changed from 2015 onwards on K16, but then again, there are really many PRE 2015 out there.... How is it, that no aftermarket producers haven't made anything "smart" yet? Oh, yes, you can install those AUX-lights below- on the sides. But, be honest, they look like shit! (Pardon my french). And yes, you're dealing with a CANBUS system, and the POST 2015 model has changed a lot regarding "angel eyes". Since PRE 2015 dont use High Beam all the time.... then please, invent something smart and clever for that position- or even better, find a solution where PRE could be like POST model "as is". :-)

                                                                                  By the way.....have a great summer out there! Two friends and I leaving from Denmark in a few days- and heading south, ie. south europe - autobahn (yeah, it's pure meditation for me), and finally into the Alpes and basecamp in the north part of Italy.

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                                                                                    Need some advice please.

                                                                                    I have a R1200GSA which I enjoy riding but find that after half an hour, my right shoulder/arm start getting a bit numb and when I get off the bike, both hands feel 'tingly', after only a hour's worth of riding. I just installed a handlebar adjuster to life the handlebar and move slightly closer to my body. Haven't had a chance to try it in earnest as yet to see if it has alleviated the fatigue issue.

                                                                                    Previously I rented a R1200RT, which I rode 2000km in 4 days. I loved the bike and found it really comfortable.

                                                                                    I'm now planning on purchasing a new K1600GTL Exclusive for some long distance riding and comfort.

                                                                                    Two questions:

                                                                                    1. For someone with only a few years experience with riding (around 3000km a year), is the K1600 'too much' of a bike? I'm worried about the maneuvering the bike at very slow speeds in traffic.I'm fine on the R1200GSA

                                                                                    2. Can the rear top box/seat be removed ? For daily commuting, it seems it will make the bike less 'bulky'.

                                                                                    Appreciate any guidance.



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                                                                                      Hello guy s I have a problem and I do not know what to do or think I bought a...

                                                                                      Hello guy's, I have a problem and I do not know what to do or think. I bought a BMW gt 2011 with 19600 km on it in november with 2 years BMW warranty. Now I have 21600 km on the meter so I drove it only for 2000 km. It had a 20000km service when I bought it. 2 days ago i was riding and de on the displays I see "CHECK" the oil. I stop and turn the engine off and back on "CHECK" is gone and reapears after a while. When I got back home I check the oil on the big stand and there is NO oil on the stick.... shocked. Is this possible? or they did not sevice the bike, or they put to little oil on it or ther is something wrong with it. I called another BMW dealer nearby and he told me to slowly fill it up and when it is on max check it every week. maybe the sensor just on the were the oil stops he told me. what am i to think...

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                                                                                        Kevin Balding shared a link to the group: BMW K1600GT/GTL Enthusiasts World Wide.

                                                                                        I posted a movie last week showing the difference with a foam mic cover and no cover on my Drift Ghost HD mounted on my BMW K1600.

                                                                                        Well I had a play with some different materials - foam, a hairy fabric and some craft pompoms.

                                                                                        I tried them first at home using a hair drier the hairy fabric was disappointing; I assume because the mic is only 5mm from the edge of the material.

                                                                                        So then it was time to get out on the road to test the foam and the pompoms I went from Pocombe Bridge on the old A30 to Fingle Glen and back on the A30. The first time around with no Mic cover, the second time with the foam and the third time with the pompom, all with the mic sensitivity set to high.

                                                                                        The Pompom was marginally better than the foam in my opinion.

                                                                                        I then did a short section of the trip with the pompom but testing the medium and low mic sensitivity settings.

                                                                                        I think Low is marginally better then medium.

                                                                                        How to mount the pompom? Most of them seem to have a flat side so I cut a piece of 1” double sided sticky tape and applied it to the flat side after punching a hole for the Mic. Then it’s just a case of peel off the backing and apply the pompom to the camera. The result is not pretty but provides audio of the bike which is usable and a vast improvement over the stock camera.

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                                                                                          Photos from Vernon Naicker's post

                                                                                          Fitted a set of Michelin PR4GT at 16360km and now at 23229km the rear tire is on the wear indicator. In France it's now illegal ( so appointment made to change the front and rear). The front is about 1mm before the indicator but from what I've seen the last 1mm can be quickly erased to the wear indicator. Tire expert tells me that as the carcass wears thin, it heats more and deteriorates more rapidly. I am somewhat dissapointed. I got 8000km out of the previous Metzeler Z8's, including 3400km summer trip with 18kg's added weight. These PR4GT's were fitted mid August. Nothing but day rides and engine set to "rain mode" going into and during winter. Seems 7000km for the rear and possible 8000km on front if I used them to the wear indicator( I won't). If you are using PR4GT's, what mileage are you getting at the moment your rear gets to the wear indicator? Riding style, pillion or not, highways??

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                                                                                            Photos from Dirk Janssens's post

                                                                                            I have red GT 1600 (2011) I bought it with 19000km on a very good price at a bmw concession holder with 2 years warrenty. Now I am collorblind to red and sometimes, depends on the light I dont like the collor very much. Now i wanted to buy the stiping you see on the younger models. I calt Bmw an asked if i could buy this and what the the price is. The fronstickers are 85 euro for 1 side and the back 56 euro for 1 side. so for the whole bike it would cost me 282 euro for ste stickers NOT placed on! I think this is a lot of money. Is there and aftermarked with this design or maybe other designs? Thx.

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                                                                                              Not really a bmw specific question but is there anyone who understands Garmin...

                                                                                              Not really a bmw specific question but is there anyone who understands Garmin basecamp quite well? I've put in a route round the alps for June this year on to my nav 5 no problems. However I also want exactly the same route on a Garmin 550 which I'm lending to a friend for the same trip. I thought this would be as easy as export route from basecamp to 550 but am getting nonsense route on the 550. Picks up all the way points but doesn't put them in sequence - and doesn't always do the same each time I export? Have spoken to Garmin who have tried to offer basic advice but ended with suggesting I take it into halfords! Really need someone who has Team Viewer on their pc to remote control mine to try to suss it out? Thanks! I'm in the north east near newcastle if anyone is in the area perhaps could meet up?

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                                                                                                I ll start with an apology if this has been covered elsewhere. K16 gt se

                                                                                                I'll start with an apology if this has been covered elsewhere! K16 gt se. Nav 5. Helmet schuberth c3. Does anyone have any recommendations either for - or against (in favour of something else) for the schuberth wireless comms? I just want music from phone (Galaxy s6), nav and phone. I'm not so bothered about cost of the schuberth kit, I know it's not the cheapest, it's the sound quality and loudness that interests me more. I use moulded ear plugs as can't stand wind noise and going on a trip round the alps in June. Have a mate who might also buy the same.

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                                                                                                  Rumor or truth

                                                                                                  Rumor or truth?

                                                                                                  Many forums has "story telling" about cut-off the Xenon (front) light and just leave the DRL/Angel Eyes on. I know this doesn't count for 2015/16 models since they have sensors build in. But anyway....

                                                                                                  Rumor says that by holding your turn signal knob in (center) for 5 secs - and then turn right for another 5 secs would shut-off your Xenon light. I'we experimented with my 2012 K1600GT - and nothing works like that!

                                                                                                  Would you guys please try-out this task and report back in this thread - please state your year/model and "work" or "not working"....

                                                                                                  I would like to confirm or "bust" this rumor! ;-)

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                                                                                                    S0 Ive now had time for the fettles to bed in and thought I d share my...

                                                                                                    S0 Ive now had time for the "fettles" to bed in and thought I'd share my impressions.

                                                                                                    The Michelin Pilot Road 4GT rubber is awesome - the bike sticks to the road in the dray and the wet - I know tyres are a personal choice but these really are very good.

                                                                                                    My CalSci Touring screen is excellent - there is little or no wind noise even at 90mph and the "twitchy" steering has gone (although that may also be due to the tyres).

                                                                                                    AltRider crash bars - well made, easy to fit and a good platform for my GoPro.

                                                                                                    So all fettled up and ready for my summer European Tour.

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                                                                                                      Photos from Sandro Reis's post

                                                                                                      I need a more responsive throttle, or rather, a way to decrease the radius of application to the throttle. When I'm really into a spirited ride, I can't switch from 1/3 throttle application to full throttle at all, there's always a 1/5 of a turn left - unless I do major twists with the arm/pulse. I wonder if someone has find this annoying too.

                                                                                                      I was watching the video of my riding with friends (Panigale, CBR 600 and KTM SXV550) and I chose some pics showing the uncomfortable hand angles I constantly need to be in (this is not full throttle, but close to it).

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                                                                                                        Photos from Kevin Balding's post

                                                                                                        My K1600 is now perfect! I traded up to the K from a R1200RT last year, the only disappointment was the windscreen on the K. On the RT my wife and I could have an intercom conversation at 70mph no problem on the K at anything over 35mph a conversation was difficult to impossible. Wherever I set the screen there was buffeting, and heavy back pressure at its highest setting.

                                                                                                        I have just fitted a Calsci XL extra wide touring screen and been out for a bimble with the wife to test it, What a difference over the stock screen A roads and B roads to Sidmouth up to 60MPH were fine, then back home via Ottery St Mary and the A30 / M5 and at 70mph with the Calsci screen set 1/3 of the way up no noise or buffeting for either of us, and we are back to being able to talk on the intercom. Result and well done Calsci (Y)

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                                                                                                          My top case seems to bounce quite a bit going down the road wither or not it...

                                                                                                          My top case seems to bounce quite a bit going down the road, wither or not it has anything in it. It bothers me that there is that much flex in the mounting system. This has to impart fatigue and stress on the base. This usually leads to fracture or failure where plastic and metal are involved. It must not be too much of an issue because I haven't see anything online about it and there seems to be no aftermarket engineering to solve this. However, it still bugs me that it moves that much. Anyone else suffer from the same OCD symptom....

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                                                                                                            Photos from Sandro Reis's post

                                                                                                            My first technical contribution is somewhat lame, but if you live in a dry climate like me - California - I don't care for the rear fender one bit. I think it's too long and make the rear of the bike look ugly, IMHO.

                                                                                                            So I trimmed the stock fender (stock part costs only $34.00). There's no aftermarket solution for this as far as I know, so I think that was a pretty cheap solution. Just use a cordless dremel (slow speed not to melt the plastic), sand paper (several different ones to make it really smooth) and black retouch paint if needed. Yes, if it rains the spray will reach the light/top case if you have it (I do), but that's it. It's just cleaning. :-)

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                                                                                                              Bike Scan 100 Professional CAN BUS reader reset Service etc

                                                                                                              Bike-Scan 100 Professional CAN-BUS reader & reset Service etc.

                                                                                                              Update: January 2017

                                                                                                              Fully support for US/UK as well.

                                                                                                              Update: June 2016

                                                                                                              The manufacturer has informed me for the latest update ie. device will within 1-2 months support US/UK language as well. Bike-Scan 100 would also support for change of dashboard in case of crash ie. you have buy 2nd hand replacement and had it "coded" into your bike for 100% functionality. You would be able to adjust km.counter (only upwards) to fit actual and correct number for the bike. We're still waiting for final test/trial-release and I hope we'll see it within 2 weeks from now! I'll keep you all informed on this page!


                                                                                                              This unit can read-out your CAN-BUS data and reset counters service intervals at well. Unlike the GS911 Pro who need USB/WiFi & Smartphone, this device is "stand-alone". There is direct support for all K1600 models (and a bunch of other BMW's as well). Price is EUR 299,- plus shipment.

                                                                                                              Read more about this at:


                                                                                                              and tech-specs from here:


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                                                                                                                Follow up on HOW TO Schuberth SRC. found in the File area

                                                                                                                Follow-up on HOW-TO Schuberth SRC (found in the File area).

                                                                                                                Many have asked why the GPS switch radio (complete) off! The answer can be found in the PDF-file (see our file area), but the quick and direct answer is this would be: If the GPS switch your radio off, it's because you have connected your Garmin / GPS directly to the helmet. You can avoid this by disconnecting Bluetooth between helmet and Garmin / GPS and your radio will be reduced in volume - but not cancel completely. You can toggle this off/on quickly on your Garmin/Bluetooth menu (even when you drive).

                                                                                                                Enjoy! :-)

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                                                                                                                  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all members

                                                                                                                  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all members!

                                                                                                                  Our group has got a great kick start from 0-254 in no time! And it seems to continue at high speed! Thanks to all. We are currently the 2'nd largest group on facebook, but we should try to become the biggest and best! My hope and wish for 2016 will be that we become even more members, get even more technical and fun posts from everyone! If you have some friends who have not yet heard about our great group, send them an invitation. Many of our members have gone "dormant" due to winter - and others keep on driving!

                                                                                                                  Regardless of where you live - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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                                                                                                                    I really need your advice on a serious problem

                                                                                                                    I really need your advice on a serious problem.

                                                                                                                    I have suspected for some time now that my wife has been cheating on me. The usual signs: if the phone rings and I answer, the caller hangs up. She goes out with the girls a lot. I try and stay awake to look out for her when she comes home but I usually fall asleep.

                                                                                                                    Anyways last night about midnight I hid in the garage behind my motorcycle. When she came home she got out of someone's car buttoning up her blouse, then she took her panties out of her purse and slipped them on.

                                                                                                                    It was that moment while I croched behind my motorcycle that I noticed a hairline crack on the engine Mounting bracket

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                                                                                                                      Photos from Kieran Allan's post

                                                                                                                      Comparing GTL 2015 screen with CE bailey large.

                                                                                                                      The mounting holes in same place, screen about 25mm higher in center.. and 25 mm lower from bolt holes... why?

                                                                                                                      I found more buffeting.. I am 6ft 2"

                                                                                                                      So i cut screen about 75mm lower and fitted MRA style brackets..almost perfect. Next was to lower about 25mm more and put vent holes to stop negative force... now 99% perfect.. will lower another 25 mm in a few weeks..more hot air in Spain.

                                                                                                                      being low allowed good air flow, no buffeting.

                                                                                                                      Move lip and silent.. screen up, lip up full protect airflow over helmet no negative pull. :)))))

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                                                                                                                        Photos from Vernon Naicker's post

                                                                                                                        In response to Phil Parker, here is my trip in the French, Swiss and Italian alps this July 2015. 3400km trip covering the well known mountain passes and great lakes. 9 days and 8 nights return trip. Most amazing thing I've ever done 'solo' and met a good friend and fellow BMW rider along the way. Also tasted food from these other places visited. :) I experienced temperatures down to -2 °C up some mountain passes up to 35°C around the great lakes in Italy! I hope to discover more of Europe and UK, Ireland and Scotland this way.

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                                                                                                                          How to pairing when you have. K1600GT L Nav V and Schuberth SRC. firmware 4

                                                                                                                          How-to pairing when you have: K1600GT/L, Nav V and Schuberth SRC (firmware 4.x or new 1.x) and iPhone 4/5/6. (or just a smartphone)

                                                                                                                          (shut-down your Nav V or dismount it from cradle/mount on bike)

                                                                                                                          1). Turn on ignition on your bike and fire up your Soundsystem

                                                                                                                          2). Parring your bike with SRC (Use + button on helmet to set it active in parring mode)

                                                                                                                          3). Your radio, USB & stuff should work with helmet - check to see if your BT connection on K1600 display is active.

                                                                                                                          4). You can mount your Nav V in cradle. Sound should work through your sound system as well. If you dont want to listen to music when directions is needed from Nav V, then switch your "mode" into AUX. Your sound from Nav V will continue to work.

                                                                                                                          You now have two options to make your phone (ie. iPhone) work in cooperation with your Nav V and K1600 Sound system. Parring your phone with Nav V (use BT menu on the Nav V menu). Phone should work with "sound" through your docked Nav V & K1600 Sound system - and you can touch Nav V screen in order to manage phone call etc. Be aware that you still have just one BT connection from your helmet - and that goes to your K1600 Sound system.

                                                                                                                          Option two is to parring Nav V with your iPhone (as above) and also parring your Nav V directly with your helmet (SRC). Make sure that this parring is made by the "phone" button on the SRC ie. hold phone button in 5 sec's until it's in parring mode. When you parring Nav V this way it skip's the K1600 internal dock-mode and BT directly to helmet. Priority would be Nav V to helmet (that goes for GPS directions and/or phone) is #1 and K1600 Sound system #2.

                                                                                                                          Both solutions works - but your directions when using option two will cut-off any music when GPS is "speaking". The option #1 will dim the music when GPS is "speaking". What ever you do - it works either ways.

                                                                                                                          *BUT* (there's always a but in this).

                                                                                                                          If you use method #2 - the you also stress the BT channels available at the SRC ie. you already have two channels active. If you for some reasons parring against one or two other helmets (intercom) you'll loose BT connection to K1600 (Sound system) whenever you have the intercom channel A and/or B active. This is quite normal and "system" limitation at the SRC.

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